tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post3722157412036859525..comments2022-03-24T20:43:32.188+00:00Comments on Pádraig Ó Méalóid: Marvelman Copyright: I Found My Smoking GunPádraig Ó Méalóidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04280061646576271412noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post-55430117362225433182013-02-09T15:04:41.786+00:002013-02-09T15:04:41.786+00:00Yes, I know Daniel from the Oh Danny Boy blog. Let...Yes, I know Daniel from the Oh Danny Boy blog. Let us just say, I don't entirely share his confidence that this is over.Pádraig Ó Méalóidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280061646576271412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post-86875692969560115012013-02-09T09:28:55.250+00:002013-02-09T09:28:55.250+00:00I've enjoyed your blog, and the posts on histo...I've enjoyed your blog, and the posts on history of Marvelman herein from other pages herein.<br />Also, here is a note and comment.<br /><br />source - http://ohdannyboy.blogspot.com/2012/09/coming-to-marvel-comic-near.html<br /><br />"... for now, with Marvel now owning both the Marvelman and Miracleman names and trademarks, the way is now clearer for both a reprinting of the Miracleman/Marvelman series...<br /><br />It also means that, finally, Gaiman and Buckingham might well take the opportunity to finally finish their storyline, over two decades after they started."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post-85532931329023678872013-02-09T09:27:13.003+00:002013-02-09T09:27:13.003+00:00I've enjoyed your blog, and the posts on histo...I've enjoyed your blog, and the posts on history of Marvelman herein from other pages herein.<br />Also, here is a note and comment I cared to share.<br /><br />source : http://ohdannyboy.blogspot.com/2012/09/coming-to-marvel-comic-near.html<br /><br />''... for now, with Marvel now owning both the Marvelman and Miracleman names and trademarks, the way is now clearer for both a reprinting of the Miracleman/Marvelman series...<br /><br />It also means that, finally, Gaiman and Buckingham might well take the opportunity to finally finish their storyline, over two decades after they started.<br /><br />It might be Marvel Comics, but, for the first time since the early 1980s, the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman are sitting with the one publisher...''<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post-44129961751013984172009-11-24T21:45:19.060+00:002009-11-24T21:45:19.060+00:00excellent detective work here. I've written an...excellent detective work here. I've written any number of times about Miracleman on my blog as well (enough to piss off Dez Skinn into replying to one of my last posts: http://inkdestroyedmybrush.blogspot.com/2009/05/miracleman-redux-penultimate-chapter.html), but i concur with the two posters above: one, someone who knows british copyright law needs to weigh in and 2, some with those original issues needs to spend an evening with them rereading and looking for legal notices. Being in the states, is there a likelihood of there being a relatively complete collection anywhere of the 1950's books?inkdestroyedmybrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09037083364689982443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post-29026844933826865642009-11-24T15:06:47.085+00:002009-11-24T15:06:47.085+00:00Presumably, as a start, we'd have to look up 1...Presumably, as a start, we'd have to look up 1950s British copyright law, and see what is says about registration and notice. An experienced British intellectual property attorney could probably rattle an answer off in a minute.Pallashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01409693747482226529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post-72467823644624094152009-11-24T12:54:05.745+00:002009-11-24T12:54:05.745+00:00Should've asked me, I've had a copy of thi...Should've asked me, I've had a copy of this book on my shelves for about 6 years now! ;-) I have to agree with Julian Darius about Mick's CLAIM that he had the rights. Doesn't always equate the same thing as to actually HAVING the rights to something. Many artists and publishers whack on a copyright sign thinking that it makes their claim de facto but it ain't necessarily so!<br /><br />I doubt this will ever be resolved. The only way it's likely to be resolved is that Marvel will claim it's theirs to publish everything and take anyone who argues to court forever. They could tie this up ad infinitum and they have the lawyers and money to do it. I think all the creators seem to have washed their hands of it and would be happy with a reprint royalty whoever published it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post-78193748683367262732009-11-24T04:22:07.095+00:002009-11-24T04:22:07.095+00:00Having done a lot of work on Miracleman / Marvelma...Having done a lot of work on Miracleman / Marvelman myself, I applaud your work here. I would just point out that "Mick Anglo was claiming that he owned the copyright on Marvelman and associated characters" does not equal that (1) he owned it at the time, (2) he owned it during the Quality years, or (2) he still has a claim. The case for Mick Anglo's ownership has certainly been boosted in recent years, particularly as no one seems able to prove that Dez Skinn acquired ownership from the British copyright receiving office, as per his accounts. I agree with your conclusions and only want to stress that we shouldn't read beyond them. The smoking gun is that Anglo made the claim, but there's much more to be established.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02667052712057873910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post-36068199031204684292009-11-23T17:13:08.605+00:002009-11-23T17:13:08.605+00:00I think someone must have copies of those early is...I think someone must have copies of those early issues, and can be talked into having a read through for copyright symbols, no? Seems the simplest way to verify the evidence.<br /><br />Marvelman and the THUNDER Agents have two of the most convoluted copyright histories in comics. Marvelman more so, I'd say, but it's close.<br /><br />And the story is not yet over - there's still the boondoggle of who owns the Warrior/Exclipse stories. No matter who owns the rights to the character (and I do agree; if it's anyone it's Anglo) there's the point of the stories themselves, and the art for same. So far, it seems to me that Marvel does NOT have them. They have a sandwich with nothing inside. And it's that stuff in the middle that everyone wants.Vinnie Bartiluccihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12031831695722239873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post-54189340181152801302009-11-23T16:49:33.805+00:002009-11-23T16:49:33.805+00:00I'm not sure how you can call that a "smo...I'm not sure how you can call that a "smoking gun" seeing as you're still looking at a reproduction and not the original comic. Maybe he "would have been more careful" with the positioning, maybe he "wouldn't".The Omnicritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13106811304296799070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post-60803685992954829512009-11-21T22:24:47.386+00:002009-11-21T22:24:47.386+00:00Thanks. I just wanted to nail everything down, as ...Thanks. I just wanted to nail everything down, as I've just seen enough unverified reports to last me a lifetime. Surely some sort of proof is not too much to ask for?Pádraig Ó Méalóidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280061646576271412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509857999978061373.post-18470031814397966182009-11-21T20:42:19.863+00:002009-11-21T20:42:19.863+00:00You've been a real Trufflehound in regard to t...You've been a real Trufflehound in regard to this and I love the dedication you've shown. Nice work. And I really like that hand-crafted Marvelman page.Rod McKiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15322224888246015883noreply@blogger.com